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Poster: Shug909 Date: Jul 11, 2016 12:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Crosby Stills Nash Young

I recently read Graham Nash's book and got inspired to do one of those "what if" compilations for myself. What if CSNY did another studio album after Deja Vu instead of all doing solo studio albums?

I've been a big fan of the Crosby If I Could Only Remember My Name album (remember the time Gans interviewed him on his radio show?) and sometimes think its even better than anything CSNY did because of its lethargically mellow psychedelic vibe and the all star SF crew that made the album with him, with Jerry, Phil, Mickey and Billy sitting in at various points. I'd guess that most here are familiar with that fine record, if you aren't, you should check it out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_I_Could_Only_Remember_My_Name

http://lostlivedead.blogspot.com/2011/11/december-15-1970-matrix-san-francisco.html

I've become more of a Stills fan in the past few years, really digging Manassas (that live DVD from 1972 on German TV is SMOKING!) and his first two solo albums. https://youtu.be/iKmlcb4HSLM

And of course I've loved Neil's early stuff for decades. I never had Graham Nash solo stuff but Songs For Beginners is not too bad with Jerry and Phil both on it on a song or two.

Could've been a real nice album by CSNY if they took songs from their solo albums (and they all sat in on each other's solo albums anyways) and put 'em together that might've gone something like this although I could spend a lot of time rearranging it:

Music Is Love
Love The One You're With
Tell Me Why
Simple Man
Traction In The Raind
Better Days
Sit Yourself Down

After The Gold Rush
I Used To Be A King
Laughing
Man In The Mirror
Birds
What Are Their Names
We Are Not Helpless

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jul 12, 2016 7:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

Just cause I really dig this bit. Crosby and Nash backing Gilmour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZsGzCcvffo (nice to see Richard Wright, who would pass a couple of years later...talk about "taken too soon") Stellar backing vocals. Perfect. Oh, and Gilmour's solo is also breathtaking.
This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2016-07-12 14:43:50

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jul 12, 2016 8:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

Oh yes. Saw this a while back on MTV. Perfect and breathtaking capture it well.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 11, 2016 1:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

These guys were, next to the DEAD, the guys I thought "got it" (my personal assessment of lyrics/music = product), and a huge influence on me in the early 70s as a young, coming of age DEAD Head...huge, very big. Military Madness was a great one...perfect for the time.1971 was such a key period for me...going to HS, post 60s, ah--what a time.

Loved all them, but Young > Nash > Stills > Crosby in regards to solo...Songs Beg's was really nice, I always thought...but year, I always, ALWAYS lamented they didn't do more together. The later stuff, the poppish stuff of CSN, just didn't satisfy...OK, but far from their peak (meaning, what played on the radio in the mid/late 70s; that period was poor by comparison).

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jul 11, 2016 5:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

I can relate WT. Those were angry and scary times. Seems like we've come full circle in 50 years. :(

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Poster: Chris U. Date: Jul 11, 2016 2:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

Military Madness is a killer song.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jul 11, 2016 3:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

Not familiar with a lot of his music outside CSNY,but his two '69 guest appearances with the Dead rate him as fine a guest as the band ever share a stage with. He is all over this Lovelight. https://archive.org/details/gd69-10-25.sbd.jagla.81.sbefail.shnf At this show he sits in on Casey Jones,Schoolgirl and Morning Dew to which he adds some very interesting playing.Then the band get's about as garage rock as I have ever heard them on Stills own Black Queen. https://archive.org/details/gd69-12-10.sbd-aud.cotsman.8997.sbeok.shnf I'm sure this is old news to most folks.It's an in case this got by you or if you are new to the music type of post.
This post was modified by jerlouvis on 2016-07-11 22:19:40

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Poster: Shug909 Date: Jul 11, 2016 1:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

More known for vocal blend than instrumental jamming, of course, but check out this guitar duel that Stills and Young get into.

https://youtu.be/5icrWZnl_1w

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jul 11, 2016 5:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

Actually it was a little like the Dead. Live concerts were not like their cuddly records. They were loud and aggressive at times. And sloppy. I saw them twice in 1969, the first one the week after Woodstock. My ears rang for days. :)

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Poster: Shug909 Date: Jul 11, 2016 7:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

I'm envious. I remember your post in aTop Concerts I Saw thread a year or two back and it was astounding how envious I was. Stones in '72? Lots of other stuff that I would give my left nut to have seen/heard in person.

Did you ever see Humble Pie in '71 or '73? Seeing the great great Steve Marriott with the mighty Pie at their peak (I prefer them just after Frampton departed when they were straight up boogie rock with no pretty songs in sight) would be one of my time-machine shows along with Led Zeppelin in 1970, Stones in '72, The Who in '70, Dead in '72 for the top five, off the top of my head.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jul 11, 2016 9:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

No Pie. I was aware of it all and I liked a lot but I was in a jazz snob sort of phase: Weather Report/Al Dimeola, Return to Forever, that sort. Combine that with an onslaught of Jackson Brownes, Linda Rondstadts, CSNYs, Graham Parsons and a lot of rock slipped by. Don't be envious - I'd trade my senior discount for ten less years. :)

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Poster: gmcgill Date: Jul 12, 2016 4:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

Off topic, but related to your comment. I saw Humble Pie 3 times between 1972 and 1973 (all post Frampton). High energy shows from beginning to end. Some of the best rock concerts I ever attended (my first was Grateful Dead, 12/26/69!). I *almost* saw your time machine shows (off by maybe 1 year). Saw Stones in 72, Who for the "Who's Next" tour (1971) and Quadrophenia Tour (1973), Zeppelin in 1971. I saw 100s of rock concerts between 1969 and 1973. I enjoyed every minute of it, but at the time it just seemed like "normal life" of a teenager trying to make it to every show that came to town.

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Poster: Shug909 Date: Jul 12, 2016 7:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

And we know now that what seemed like just the normal standard good rock show for the times was actually the tip top of the highest peak that rock music ever attained, one that is highly unlikely to ever be repeated! You guys were right in the experience of the golden era of rock. I'm glad you appreciated it and thanks for sharing the tales!

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Poster: gmcgill Date: Jul 12, 2016 8:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

I'm biased of course so I think this was a golden era *for me*. But I'm optimistic in the thought that young folks today are generating their own experiences that in 40 to 50 years will also be "wow, you saw XXXXX in concert!".

p.s. And I still see lots of concerts, and many are as good as any I've ever seen. Live music is a treasure.

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Poster: Shug909 Date: Jul 12, 2016 8:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

I'd admire your optimism about the future of music and I think its a noble stance to acknowledge the subjectivity of music appreciation (ie that young people nowadays may like the current bands as much as young people liked the bands of the early 70s and try not to take that away from them), but I don't share it. I get that its a good thing to appreciate what you can see live in the time you happen to be alive, but for my aesthetic we have been in a drought of good rock music for the past 30 years with just a handful of bands that are in the same league as the greats of the late 60s/early 70s. When I try to look at the history of rock music with as much objectivity as critical aesthetics can have, there is no doubt in my mind that rock music was at a peak in the early 70s and its been on a consistent decline each decade since. Rock music as I define it is almost extinct. I go see Wilco and My Morning Jacket as much as I can and I saw a shit ton of great Black Crowes concerts and I saw the Dead a 100 times between 1987 and 1995, I've been seeing what there is to see in the styles of rock that I like as much as I possible could for the past 33 years, but overall, my rock concert-going experience doens't come anywhere even remotely close to 1969-1973, in my opinion.

I've been on the other side of it, too. I have had rock fans younger than me be amazed when they find out I saw Stevie Ray Vaughan nine times before he died. For me, he was the greatest rock guitarist of those that I've seen live in their prime. But the more time passes, the more I realize I missed the true golden era of rock. Thank God for the live recordings!

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Poster: gmcgill Date: Jul 12, 2016 9:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

It is true that *for me* I'm not finding nearly as many good shows to see as I did in the late 60s/early 70s (but just as well as I don't have as much free time for shows as I had 45 years ago!). But all but a handful of the 19 year olds I know currently (and I know a lot) would rather slit their wrists than see a Grateful Dead or Led Zeppelin or Who or Stevie Ray Vaughn concert. They don't identify with this sort of music at all. They honestly think of it as old fogey music that their grandparents listened to (just like I would have thought of Bing Crosby at age 19). And these are kids that like music! But their idea of music is "electronic daisy carnival" type festivals.

I am heartened to see that there are also 19 year olds that love 60s and 70s music, and to see modern bands that are more in the mold of rock acts of the old days.

p.s. Stevie Ray Vaughn and his brother Jimmie lived literally just around the corner from me when I was growing up. But they were a couple of years older than me (2 and 5 years) and when you're a kid, even 2 years is a BIG difference in age. But I did get to see Stevie play many times and several times in Dallas in small clubs before he made it big. Even way back then you knew you were seeing someone really special.

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Jul 11, 2016 1:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

Nice clip - Thanks! Especially GN smoking on the B3 - I did not know he had it in him. Agree with most of the above, only to add the Bloomfield Kooper Stills LP Super Session to the mix. SS Live is another. Always thought Season of the Witch would have been good Jerry fodder.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jul 11, 2016 5:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

Man I wore out Super Session. I was so into Bloomfield. I could see Jerry doing it if he put on his Chicago Blues hat for 10 minutes. Killer riff

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Jul 11, 2016 3:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

I've done the same thing for the Beatles .
I would leave the Neil stuff off, "Goldrush is such good record, and Neil wrote some much stuff then, he could pull out a couple more on request . Anyway this is a little odd, iff fun .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PamO6obWcQk

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Poster: gmcgill Date: Jul 12, 2016 4:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crosby Stills Nash Young

Wow. Hadn't seen Tom and CSNY clip. As you say, odd, but quite a good performance. All seem to be having fun.